Hi,
I had an 08 Xmax 250 for 5 years and about 22K miles.
I loved it.
I got a Xmax 400 last year, done about 2000 miles now.
PROS: It is fast
CONS: Mirrors need to be further forward on fairing like a TMAX. When you are crouching forward at 70 mph plus to avoid the shocking wind noise (I''m 5'11'') your head is in front of the mirrors. Useless.
Getting about 60 mpg as opposed to 80 mpg on X MAX 250.
The apron acts like a sail in crosswinds. Dangerous as hell at speed.
My biggest gripe is the fuel tank capacity. Advertised as 14 litres, I struggle to get just over 11 litres in mine. Joke, it means I have to fill up pretty much every day during the working week, was hoping it would only be 2 or 3 times a week.
Over to you fellow XMAXers...
Any X MAX 400 owners about?
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jazzjimmy
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Re: Any X MAX 400 owners about?
Welcome Mister Jizzy Jazzjimmy
Hopefully top bloke XMax400Paul will be along shortly - though I'm not sure which scoot he has...
Hopefully top bloke XMax400Paul will be along shortly - though I'm not sure which scoot he has...
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SH125Paul
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Re: Any X MAX 400 owners about?
How do...
fink ya number 6... Me, Richard400, mj_jonesy, Robyn, Hammerfan...
And a most have come from an Xmax250... mine being the older '09 BlackMax, plus me and another did the Pug SF 100 and Gilly Runner on the way!
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =5&t=13624" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =2&t=14723" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =2&t=14732" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Had my 400 since June '13, on 5k5 miles at the mo, and got my 6k service booked in 3 weeks.
Just got the scoot back from some coolant woes http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... 10&t=15285" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Basically wot you said!
250 was giving 80mpg on a stop/start commute - now getting late 50's to 60 on the 400...
Got The Yam apron - pain in the arse to fill up - and took it off again...
Tank capacity - pump clips off at about the 11 lt mark from a flashing segment/fuel odo...
Is it me or has the 400 got a fat arse?
http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/yamaha-yp40 ... r-kit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
3 Air filters and an oil filter... £22, plus £3 P&P - Thats £25! - OE is getting on for £70!
At those prices I plan to do a Change @ 6k miles, rather than a clean
For Home Service Help... check out the On-Line Parts Lists and Exploded Diagrams at: http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/services/ ... index.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And download a copy of the 400 Maj Service book from 'ScooterTime.net' for engine info and a good estimation for most chassis torque settings etc
Enjoy!
fink ya number 6... Me, Richard400, mj_jonesy, Robyn, Hammerfan...
And a most have come from an Xmax250... mine being the older '09 BlackMax, plus me and another did the Pug SF 100 and Gilly Runner on the way!
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =5&t=13624" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =2&t=14723" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... =2&t=14732" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Had my 400 since June '13, on 5k5 miles at the mo, and got my 6k service booked in 3 weeks.
Just got the scoot back from some coolant woes http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... 10&t=15285" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Basically wot you said!
250 was giving 80mpg on a stop/start commute - now getting late 50's to 60 on the 400...
Got The Yam apron - pain in the arse to fill up - and took it off again...
Tank capacity - pump clips off at about the 11 lt mark from a flashing segment/fuel odo...
Is it me or has the 400 got a fat arse?
http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/yamaha-yp40 ... r-kit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
3 Air filters and an oil filter... £22, plus £3 P&P - Thats £25! - OE is getting on for £70!
At those prices I plan to do a Change @ 6k miles, rather than a clean
For Home Service Help... check out the On-Line Parts Lists and Exploded Diagrams at: http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/services/ ... index.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And download a copy of the 400 Maj Service book from 'ScooterTime.net' for engine info and a good estimation for most chassis torque settings etc
Enjoy!
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jazzjimmy
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Re: Any X MAX 400 owners about?
Hi Paul,
Hopefully (for me and others!) your coolant issue was just a one off if that clip was loose.
I had a thermostat issue on the XMAX 250 which I think affected a lot of owners. That came just out of warranty. Typical. Yamaha were good enough to pay for parts, I got lumbered with service though. Early days for 400's, let's keep our fingers crossed.
The fact that fuel capacity is poor against advertised level is a major bind. The number one factor behind my decision to move up from the 250 was my commute distance trebling (plus faster roads). I was hoping the 14 litres would do for just over two days. Fill up every day with that apron in winter is tedious.
I've also noticed the fat arse; I got a a minor graze from a traffic island on that plastic looking heat shield after about a fortnight.
In the long term a fat rear end can't be a bad thing if it makes you think twice about REALLY narrow gaps when filtering.
Thanks for the diagram links, I'll be passing them to my brother when the need arises. He is a bike mechanic. I am clueless...
Hopefully (for me and others!) your coolant issue was just a one off if that clip was loose.
I had a thermostat issue on the XMAX 250 which I think affected a lot of owners. That came just out of warranty. Typical. Yamaha were good enough to pay for parts, I got lumbered with service though. Early days for 400's, let's keep our fingers crossed.
The fact that fuel capacity is poor against advertised level is a major bind. The number one factor behind my decision to move up from the 250 was my commute distance trebling (plus faster roads). I was hoping the 14 litres would do for just over two days. Fill up every day with that apron in winter is tedious.
I've also noticed the fat arse; I got a a minor graze from a traffic island on that plastic looking heat shield after about a fortnight.
In the long term a fat rear end can't be a bad thing if it makes you think twice about REALLY narrow gaps when filtering.
Thanks for the diagram links, I'll be passing them to my brother when the need arises. He is a bike mechanic. I am clueless...