New T max question. Battery charging

[bugsy]

Hi all,

Could anyone with a new T max tell me if there is a battery charging socket on the new non DX version and if so does the socket only accept the Yamaha chargers. Some of the Yamaha review forums seem to mention a new charge socket but I can’t find it on the Yamaha web site.

In the process of moving up to the new model but the dealers doesn’t seem to have an answer at the moment. My current Max had a lead protruding from a panal they fitted for the Oxford Optimiser. Bit dissapointed I can’t use my Garmin Sat nav on this one. Yamaha have stopped the sat nav holder being fitted to the centre bar mount. You seem to have to use smart phones for everything nowadays.
Thanks in anticipation.

Bugsy

[abitmad]

I have a new TMax DX bought last year and no, there is no charging socket on this or the basic model. There is an accessory socket in the right side glove box, a cig lighter type. But it is not live when the ignition is off so no use for battery charging. I use it to charge my phone and/or my power pack when riding by plugging a USB adapter into it.

Because I don't ride sufficiently often to maintain bike batteries at anywhere near full charge, that being the ideal way to maximise their life and ensure starting, I keep all my bikes on constant smart charger (CTEK in my case) whenever at home so to facilitate this on the DX I've fitted a DIN (same as on BMW and Triumph etc. bikes) socket with a spring cap like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Din-Accessor ... Swx6pYrdx-

to the left hand battery cover panel, direct to the battery on a fused lead, which seems the perfect place for it as the battery is immediately behind that panel and it is a handy place too. As this is not ignition controlled it is used for charging and also for my heated clothing. It does require drilling a suitable hole for the socket though but the result is very neat and looks like it was built in as original equipment.

I prefer the DIN standard to cig standard on bikes as it's smaller and makes a more positive connection in my view.

For my nav, I used the official Yam accessory mount which fits in the middle of the bars after removing the cover plate. The nav is then wired direct into an ignition controlled circuit so it turns on and off with the bike. I prefer that method to direct battery connection that some use because there is no risk then of leaving the nav on when the bike is parked, thereby draining the battery.

[MrGrumpy]

Yes, there's no supplied socket. I did see a vague mention of something on the Yam website, but it doesn't seem to exist. As Abitmad says, the battery is behind the left hand panel on the dash, and is thus reasonably accessible. I have a Citek charger wired to the battery - room was made in the cover lid by drilling to poke the wire out. The socket itself is thus exposed and ugly - I could drill a bigger hole and hide it, but then when I remove the lead when I sell it, there'd be an open hole.

[tmaxrobbo]

I have a new TMax DX bought last year and no, there is no charging socket. There is an accessory socket in the right side glove box, a cig lighter type. But it is not live when the ignition is off so no use for battery charging. I use it to charge my phone and/or my power pack when riding by plugging a USB adapter into it.

Because I don't ride sufficiently often to maintain bike batteries at anywhere near full charge, that being the ideal way to maximise their life and ensure starting, I keep all my bikes on constant smart charger (CTEK in my case) whenever at home so to facilitate this on the DX I've fitted a DIN (same as on BMW and Triumph etc. bikes) socket with a spring cap like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Din-Accessor ... Swx6pYrdx-

to the left hand battery cover panel, direct to the battery on a fused lead, which seems the perfect place for it as the battery is immediately behind that panel and it is a handy place too. As this is not ignition controlled it is used for charging and also for my heated clothing. It does require drilling a suitable hole for the socket though but the result is very neat and looks like it was built in as original equipment.

I prefer the DIN standard to cig standard on bikes as it's smaller and makes a more positive connection in my view.

For my nav, I used the official Yam accessory mount which fits in the middle of the bars after removing the cover plate. The nav is then wired direct into an ignition controlled circuit so it turns on and off with the bike. I prefer that method to direct battery connection that some use because there is no risk then of leaving the nav on when the bike is parked, thereby draining the battery.

How did you wire the sat nav into the ignition wiring ?
I've fitted a Sat Nav a Tomtom but wired it direct to the battery . I make sure I always take it off but it would be nice not to . Cheers

[abitmad]

I don't know because I got the dealer to fit the nav when I bought the bike so left the wiring up to them, having instructed them that I wanted it to be ignition controlled. Could have done it myself but since I struck a deal with them for the purchase of the new bike to include the nav, there was no reason for me to do so.

Presumably they found a suitable circuit to tap into near the nav fitting.

[kayz1]

I thought the T-Max ( new ) had the wiring in place in the harness for the factory nav mount as the X-ADV and a lot of new machines..trouble is unless some one has pulled the panels to look you need a manual to tell you where Yamaha have put them..

[tmaxrobbo]

Fair enough . It was easier on the Mk 4 just had to cut the T Max emblem out of the bar cover and fit the mount to the bar clamps . I wired that to the battery direct . Will get the dealer to do it at 6000miles

[bugsy]

Thanks to all of you for your replies. I am sorry for the late reply and thanks but been busy at work.
That has cleared things up nicely. I will leave it to the dealer, which will probably mean a loose lead and covered plug. I dont mind really but what a shame they didn’t think of this as standard. It would probably been a good little earner for them if it had a Yamaha connection for their chargers. I will plod on with the old Oxford charger.
Dont think I will worry with the Sat Nav.
Thanks again.

Bugsy

[Scootypuff snr]

I thought the T-Max ( new ) had the wiring in place in the harness for the factory nav mount as the X-ADV and a lot of new machines..trouble is unless some one has pulled the panels to look you need a manual to tell you where Yamaha have put them..

Lyn
Any idea where it is on the X-ADV (assuming you've researched already) ifI'd not no worries I can look myself

[kayz1]

I never found it on my X-ADV, i had the front off it to fit the Honda heated grips and Honda spot light wiring ( all plugs and sockets already in the harness ) but i never located the SAT-Nag plug. The dealer/UK Honda also have no idea where it is, only that Honda Japan show a sat-nag holder with a cable attached to it..It's such a bitch to remove all the plastic i didn't do it again. When i could not find it, as i had the plastics off i wired in a 12volt feed from the ciggy lighter under the seat and up to a point i could get at at the front. I also took a feed from the battery, fitted a relay to the 12volt from the ciggy socket to switch it, that was easy enough and could be done with the minimum of plastic removal..