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A nice enough looking copy of an Xmax.....?

That's all it is - just a nice enough looking copy - for 2020 and probably inferior all round, both in design and materials used.

Not sure about the position of the display behind the bars? Difficult to see if you’re not leaning forward I’d assume?

Stibbs wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:21 am Not sure about the position of the display behind the bars? Difficult to see if you’re not leaning forward I’d assume?

The scoot probably isn't that tall. You may actually find you have to crouch down to see the display!

They look nice and might really be worth a go if you are a sunny day only biker or in a better climate.

Most of the things you see that go through winters soon have a very browney orangey look to them sadly.

I`ve seen one winter machines so rusty its almost like you wonder if its a time slip job !!! ( ie 10 + odd winters !!! ).

I bought 2 front winter tyre`s this year made by a good brand were supposed to be superb in snow etc ( European made ).

But when they came horror of horrors the 5 letter word was now on the side. I should of sent them straight back, but I called the usually top drawer manufacturer, oh they are just as good same spec and compound etc etc don`t worry.

But after some snow they are the worst winter car tyres I ever used in 25 odd years. And some odd EU cheapies etc in there but still far far better than these.

A bit of a witter on there, but it does show there needs to be some real improvment yet.

But they do look fantastic scooters.

Pretty pictures, but who wants to risk their hard-earned on it being better than Chinese crap of yore though? Not me.

If anyone does, I would be very interested to read about it.

Jaz wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:40 am Pretty pictures, but who wants to risk their hard-earned on it being better than Chinese crap of yore though? Not me.

If anyone does, I would be very interested to read about it.

If they were to arrive here, they'd likely be either under the badge of one of the more respected Chinese brads (eg Sinnis, CFMoto or UM/Lexmoto ) or else rebadged as something like a Benelli, or another of MotoGB's brands.

Either way, they would be far better than the non-established-brand scooters from the early '00s bike-in-a-box period.

Whether they'd be good enough for me or thee to part with cash for 'em, probably not in your case, but I might ... or might not ... caveat emptor.

Well, as far as we know, the Chinese assembled PTWs for brands like BMW are basically built OK, but with someone like BMW you assume that getting spares etc in the future won't be a problem. But if you are buying a Chinese brand you've barely heard of, will you get spares / importer back up? After all, if the UK Sym and Kymco importers can make such a hash of selling really good scoots, what chance do you have with lesser brands?

exterior wise upped the game howabout the electrics and mechanical side of the copy or is it still like it was put together in someone's shed ?