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ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:30 am
by spaceprobe
I was looking up some information about the new Bosch 9 system which my Maxsym 600 will come with and I came across these two articles. It may be old hat to some but others may find it of interest. Remember ABS is no substitute for a good riding technique.

http://www.bosch-moto.it/en/it/fahrsich ... aking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/bosch-abs-testing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:24 am
by gn2
Quite interesting to note that tip number 1 on the Bosch website is rear brake first.

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:36 am
by spaceprobe
gn2 wrote:Quite interesting to note that tip number 1 on the Bosch website is rear brake first.
Yes I thought that was odd I wonder it that is just a BMW set up. The standard view is when dry 70% front and 30% rear and in wet 50/50. It will be interesting to see what thoughts others have. When I get the 600 it will be the first bike I have ever ridden with ABS.

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:53 am
by gn2
I still firmly believe the current teaching is wrong.
What's also interesting is that Bosch have incorporated an anti-tilt feature which reduces braking effort at the front to keep the rear in contact with the ground.
I don't think that's just BMW, have a look at the URL.....?

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:59 am
by spaceprobe
gn2 wrote:I still firmly believe the current teaching is wrong.
What's also interesting is that Bosch have incorporated an anti-tilt feature which reduces braking effort at the front to keep the rear in contact with the ground.
I don't think that's just BMW, have a look at the URL.....?
That's the advanced version of the 9 system that at the moment is only available on some BMW's and KTM's I believe.

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:01 am
by spaceprobe
Any tips for using ABS on a bike greatly appreciated by this old dog :-)

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:25 am
by gn2
I think that only the last bullet point is system 9 specific, the rest apply to Bosch ABS generally.

My top tip for ABS (and non-ABS).... use the brakes as little as possible, read the road and use the throttle to control speed.

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:12 pm
by SH125Paul
spaceprobe wrote:
gn2 wrote:...The standard view is when dry 70% front and 30% rear and in wet 50/50. It will be interesting to see what thoughts others have...
I think that is more for ya bikes with there weight distribution, and how it moves to assist the braking at the front as the weight transfers...
Most scoots the weight distribution is way rearwards... so I would imagine more 50/50 for all braking would be a better way to teach on a scoot...

ABS and Linked Braking is interesting, never really ridden anything equipped... but would of gone for em for safety on my XMax if available.
Not sure how that would work with other (motorcycle based / tought braking arrangements.. trailing the front brake to the apex to drop the front, reduce the head angle and to quicken steering / drop in or trailing the rear brake to tighten up on a corner, or for control on a tight turn , loose surface where you cant slip the clutch...

EDIT: SORRY! - Poor use of editing the quote feature!

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:15 pm
by gn2
Wait a minute, I didn't say that! :lol:

Re: ABS

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:41 pm
by Normsthename
Any tips for using ABS on a bike greatly appreciated by this old dog
Yes, forget that you have it fitted!
I just ride bikes and scoots like I have always have with the correct braking for the available conditions.
Then if Sh@t hits the Fan the ABS is there as Backup :D

Andy