Sym side stand.

[j.newton1]

My Sym is fitted with a suicide side stand, as well as the risk of the scooter falling over in the wind etc, I was unable to use the stand when seated on the scooter. If any other Sym owners have a similar problem, I have a solution that takes a few minutes, and costs next to nothing.

[phantom309]

the only problem iv'e had with centre stand , is ground clearance...on the left side an exhaust bolt on exhaust side..well the audi wanted a race..lol
an i'm pleased to say he couldn't keep up through the bends...this gts300 really is good ....

[gn2]

i'm pleased to say he couldn't keep up through the bends...

He probably just didn't want to run over the top of you if you dropped it.
Any half sensible car driver will always drop back when a bike cuts in front on a bendy road.

[MrGrumpy]

Any half sensible car driver will always drop back when a bike cuts in front on a bendy road.

Any half sensible car driver??? How many of those have you come across recently??????

[gn2]

My wife is the only one...

[anonstarter]

Come on, you've got a 23 BHP scooter and we know you like to "press on", but even the smallest Audi A1 kicks out a minimum of 90 BHP and if Audi boy was really bothered about racing you he'd only need the space to overtake you and a clear view of the road ahead before making his move...

Absolutely. The 23bhp SYM 264cc "300i" engine is pretty swift to 40mph and no slouch up to 60 - it will still out accelerate the 'average' car and driver. A 'competitive driver' could easily out pace the 23bhp once speeds get above 50mph, and the 23bhp runs out of 'steam' at 85mph.

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[jeremy]

Hi,

I'm a newbie to this forum and I'd like to take up your kind offer of instructions for "how to modify a sym side stand to make it stay down".
My scooter is a 2012 Sym Symphony 125SR.

Looking forward to your reply,

Jeremy

[j.newton1]

Hi.If you look at the bolt that holds the side stand in place,underneath you will see a peg on the bolt,this peg is what makes the stand fly up when weight is taken off it. In order to make the stand stay down,you have to remove this peg. Two ways to do this (1) Cut the peg off using a Dremmel or similar. (2) Start to unscrew the bolt,from underneath ,at the same time screw in a suitable bolt,to replace it. Keep on until the new bolt has replaced the old one, which should have now fallen out. Keep this bolt you may want to re install it. Any problems PM me.

[jeremy]

Hi j.newton1

Many thanks for your reply and the instructions.
Yes, I see what you mean.
The next time that I venture down our Spanish mountain into the nearest town, I'll call in to the ferreteria (ironmonger) and get an 8mm set screw because the "peg" part of my bolt is hardened ( or at least toughened so hacksaw not viable) it's also 12mm diameter where the quadrant bears against it and I don't have an angle grinder here.

Great, I'll then be able to start bike in garage on centre stand until choke switches off, meanwhile putting helmet & gloves on, mount bike & ride it out of the garage, flick the side stand down with my foot, dismount, close the garage door, back on bike, flick stand up, ride 20 meters to the gate, side stand down, dismount, open gate, back on bike and put stand up, ride through gateway, put stand down, dismount, close gate, back on bike, flick stand up and finally ride away.
As you can imagine, you get real fed up of doing all above with the centre stand.

Thanks again.
Jeremy

[Globs]

I concur with the GTS300 speed TBH, although my one has Dr Pulley sliders that give better acceleration (and top speed) as they get in the variator corners better.

Hi.If you look at the bolt that holds the side stand in place,underneath you will see a peg on the bolt,this peg is what makes the stand fly up when weight is taken off it. In order to make the stand stay down,you have to remove this peg.

I fixed my SYM Joyride sidestand properly by removing it entirely - it has a centre stand after all. My GTS300 has a switch and therefore the sidestand actually works.

For those thinking of converting their sidestand to the suicide version I'd have a long careful think about your memory. You only have to forget ONCE to raise your side stand and the next left hand bend could be your last. The only safe sidestand is one with a cut-out switch or one that cannot stay down when you forget. My clear advice on this is DO NOT disable the major safety feature in your sidestand, just remove it completely or fit one with a proper switch and make sure your engine can't run if you leave it down.

People have died and lost limbs from forgetting the sidestand, you only need to be distracted the once to be in a world of pain - or in fact no longer in this world.