B400z abs 7 months on...

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B400z abs 7 months on...

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Well, am i happy with the new Burgman 400z now with 3,200 on the clock? You bet! I've not done as many miles on her as I would normally cover due to an injury sustained at work, meaning the bike spent a few weeks in the garage 'resting' and 'waiting' for me to get well enough to ride it. Everything is pretty much fine now and I'm riding whenever I need or want to. So I've been evaluating my purchase...

I like....the way the engine has continued to improve as the miles have gone on her. The power output has just gotten better and better as the engine conforming has continued to take place. The engine is mechanically very very quiet, yet seems to pack quite a punch now. It's noticeable especially when leaving the rat pack behind at the traffic light gp. When on the motorway it has developed an even bigger surge of power between 50 and 80mph over what it produced at even 2,500miles. It's no slouch! The engine has not used any oil. That's particularly pleasing as I cruise at 70mph for long periods and tend to let her rip occassionally so it's nice to know everything is bedding in nicely.

On long trips (mainly to Birmingham giving a round trip of 380miles) I remain comfortable. I take a passenger occassionally one way. We take a mass of luggage too and it stows nicely under the seat. I use the heated grips and find the weather protection perfect for my height and build. I'm 6'2" so there is plenty of me! Neither of us has comfort problems at motorway speeds and the bike performs very nicely. Not really any need for more power even climbing some of the bigger long slopes. She doesn't slow down. Fuel economy is ultra good even with a passenger. At motorway speeds it's around 72mpg with a passenger over a long distance and solo that goes up to 75-76mpg at motorway speeds but can depend on wind direction to some extent. Overall, if not on motorways and not going over 60-65mph the mpg soars to 78-82mpg. On an eco run, solo it's possible to get 88+mpg's, and yes I've done that a couple of times by just not going over 60mph on 'A' roads. It's easy and frankly quite incredible in my book. This checks out with my pencil and paper method of fuel consumption testing too as well as confirming the fuel trip computer is pretty accurate. When I say it's easy...actually it's not! I keep wanting to go much much faster as the bike just begs for it! It 's very very happy at 70-75mph indicated. Smooth and vibration free. It encourages you to go fast! Funny but I gave up my GSX1400 and 1000cc Vstrom to slow down a bit! Hasn't really worked that well. However, handling and roadholding are as good as any previous bike that I've owned and better than some. During the summer I had good cause to thank the gods I had ABS brakes. And so can the poor Muntzjac that I narrowly missed! This digital abs works briliantly compared to the older first generation stuff. It was very smooth in operation. And I survived! as is apparent!

The clutch on the bike has remained smooth as silk, no judder or squeal. In fact the only judder I have experienced was after a previous nights 'wet' run when the bike was put away wet in the garage. Not something I normally do. In the morning the bike juddered a couple of times as it 'burned' off the condensation in the clutch drum. It never did it again. I'm pretty hard on the clutch. I don't hang about. I just wringe the throttle open and go! I think that's the secret on these 400 burgers. Just go and it's ok, especially if you clean it out every second service as my mechanic tells me I should do. He tells me it's not the glazing par se that causes the judder but the dust. None of his customers seem to have any problems so we'll see. But so far , as I say, it's fine and I do my fair share of town stop and go work too.

I've carried out some minor work on her with replacing the rear tyre and waxoyling the frame and I'm please with the simplicity of the design. Nothing complicated about the bike in any area. Nothing an owner cannot do with some basic tools. I've removed most panels from her now and she is very well designed and put together (I did put the panels back again!).

So, what don't I like about the Burgman 400z abs? Errrrrr......ummmm....well.....ah.............not sure.....actually! So far it's the one bike I've owned in 42 years that I can't find any fault with. That may change of course, but honestly, it's just great! Can't find fault.

It's a keeper. :lol:
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42 years is a long time to take to discover that conventional motorbike design is shite, it only took me 32 years :lol:

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gn, I'm slow!!... :lol: :o
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Good to know you are totally happy with the Burgman. I have always changed bikes every year or so, I think it's a medical illness, not being satisfied with any bike.
Yet I've had the same car for 12 years and the same wife for 38 years.
Anyway good to know your happy, me, I've p-exed the Burgman for a NC700X.
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Lol i change bikes and cars regular tho had this car for 3 years,

but had WIFE for 50 years now :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Got a provisional order on a new 650 but little voice + previous experience tells me that the 400 is the optimum choice for all the reasons discussed many times on here and other forums. If Suzuki had updated the 400 as well as the 650 then i would have bought the 400 but I would not dare now as it must be due for an update in the not to distant. Should have bought ABS 400 earlier in the year before the price rise but I believed, wrongly, that the update was imminent. Woe, Woe a thousand times Woe. Pleased you are enjoying it ,Data.

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Hi Mac, yes...a dilema! I don't think you will go wrong whatever Burger you buy. The new 650 is a champ I'm sure. However, I've often waited until a new design/model is imminent and then driven a very hard bargain with a dealer on the fading current model. I've saved thousands that way. I paid absolute peanuts for my brand new 400z abs in March this year, and that was with a trade in. It seems a completely new 400 won't be available until 2014 at least. It will have a twin cylinder engine of 399cc putting out 50hp. Performance will be a genuine 105mph top speed with easy 80mph cruising. The cvt will be conventional and it will be fully loaded with all the extras. Service interval are rumoured to be every 6k miles. Weight of the bike is approximately the same as the current model. Styling will be almost identical to the new 650. The best bit is that it will only cost the same as the current model at least to start with. Oh....wait a minute. I think I'm dreaming!! :lol: :o Really though, can't wait to see it when it arrives, whatever it looks like.
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Good to hear your happy with the Burger, I had a go on one a year or two ago and while it was roomy enough for me at 6'3" I found the seat height a bit low and probably didn't give it a fair chance after that, it did ride well though.
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Hi Data. I bought my Burgman 400 ABS at about the same time you did (10th March) and I too am more than happy with it. I used to have a 2006 Burgman 400 and the latest one is considrably better. Not that there was anything wrong with my old one! In particular the new one is so much more smooth and responsive.

One or two comments though. Firstly your brake judder after getting it wet. I find this strange as I keep mine outside with nothing more than a cover to protect it, and so it has been wet many times and I have never had brake judder or anything else as a result. Secondly the heated grips. I don't know if it is just mine but they are c**p, taking upwards of 15 minutes to warm up and even then insufficient to keep my hands warm enough at temperatures in the region of 0 - 2 C.

Oh yes, the oil consumption or lack of. I am quite surprised at this as my old one used to use quite a lot. I was always having to top it up.

Otherwise I am well pleased and have no regrets at all.

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Hi '58', yep they are good aren't they. My heated grips take a little time to warm up (it feels that way anyway) and don't feel as hot as my previous grips on the Vstrom (an illusion I've found!). But they are sufficient for me in the cold weather. I took a glove off at one point to see how hot they were actually getting and indeed they were both very hot but in slightly different places to where my Vstrom grips got hot. On the Strom they became hot right in my palm area, but the Burgman grips get hot further around near the finger area on mine so I don't feel the heat quite so much. I actually like that as my palms used to get too hot on the Vstrom.

You misread my post concerning 'brake judder'. I don't get any brake judder or clutch judder par se. But I did once get clutch judder after putting the bike away in the garage wet overnight. I left it on the side stand. I think water drips entered the clutch drum (they can easily) and caused the slight judder on move off the next day on that occassion. The bike was completely soaked after a 120 mile run in torrential rain in the dark on the motorways. I would point out I was completely dry and warm. The protection offered by the Burgman is incredible. I was completely comfortable and the bike never missed a beat. I seem to be slightly, oh well...errrr...completely insane when it comes to riding in the rain. I actually love it! I haven't had any other clutch judder issues, just that one time.

In accordance with what I have read and been told about preventative maintanence on the 400 clutch I will be taking it apart at the 7500 service to clean it out and deglaze the drum and pads. My dealer normally does it as a matter of course, but I intend to do it myself as I'm curious. My dealer take just 30mins to do it so it will take me double that as I'm out of practice! I'll change the rear final drive oil too. I don't want my dealer doing it. I know they will not cover any warranty issues at that end afterwards. But I am not worried about that as I can do any work on the bike that needs doing if in the unlikely event I have a problem. I am ex-tech and the Burgman 400 is as simple as it gets which is one reason I bought one.

I too am pleased about the lack of oil consumption. I did wonder after reading about some earlier models. But it seems these new ones don't use any real measurable amount of oil at sustained high speed even over hundreds of miles. Well, I've done that. And still zero oil usage. It's all good! :D Glad you are pleased with yours.
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