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tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:25 am
by Zed
So applying for my tax disc: why does my tax type say "bicycle"?

It clearly says Piaggio Liberty 124cc, but the bicycle bit confuses me, is it wrong, or are all scooters like this?

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:26 am
by StevenM
My 500 tmax says bicycle too weird. Does this mean we can go in cycle lanes?

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:40 am
by ridinhigh
its same on any motorbike, i think its because they have two wheels

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:47 am
by Bluebottle
Yup, tax class is bicycle
It is your body type that should be "scooter" but that only appears on your V5 not your tax disc

Bicycle means 2 wheels, in recent times it has been applied to pedal cycles as if it were an exclusive term.
Part of the tax class criteria is numbers of axles and wheels thereon so that is the bit they are interested in.

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:21 am
by Zed
Bluebottle wrote:Yup, tax class is bicycle
It is your body type that should be "scooter" but that only appears on your V5 not your tax disc

Bicycle means 2 wheels, in recent times it has been applied to pedal cycles as if it were an exclusive term.
Part of the tax class criteria is numbers of axles and wheels thereon so that is the bit they are interested in.
Ugh ok, cheers everyone.

I guess their system is from the 19th century or something before motorvehicles got invented, so they bunged everything with two wheels into an existing category, rather than invent a new one... :roll:

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:01 pm
by StephenC
This is what happens when a old country gradually evolves. Not like in new countries or after a revolution, where systems get designed from scratch for the modern (at the time, anyway) world. I rather like the quaintness of it myself, even if sometimes the limitations we have here are a pain in the 'arris.

Of course, judging by the way many riders behave with cycles lanes and ASL, you would think that they really do believe the tax status means more than it really does.

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:03 pm
by Zed
StephenC wrote: the tax status means more than it really does.
I did wonder if this means i can now go in bicycle lanes / thru red lights / on footpaths :twisted:

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:55 pm
by StephenC
Zed wrote:
StephenC wrote: the tax status means more than it really does.
I did wonder if this means i can now go in bicycle lanes / thru red lights / on footpaths :twisted:
Sure. Let me know how it goes. I'll watch out for your court appearance.

Re: tax disc "tax type"?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:09 pm
by Bluebottle
Zed wrote: so they bunged everything with two wheels into an existing category, rather than invent a new one... :roll:
No, its much worse than that :D

A pedal bike is legally a carriage, that is why it can use the road and must have lights etc. but it falls outside the bicycle tax class by virtue of its weight and motive power.

The "Bicycle" tax class is to differentiate it from "Tricycle"
When I was a swivel swervy, if a solicitor confused a tax class with a vehicle definition I would have given him/her a pat on the head sent them home with a copy of the Road Traffic Act (as ammended).

As StephenC said, I'll look out for your court appearance
(I quite like the quaintness of it all too, maybe its a squirrel thing)