Looks like BMW will not be selling any of the 650 scooters in the Uk this year looking at their website.

Honda have updated the website with available colours now and price.

Bear in mind this is a simple rebadging exercise for the Integra to look to benefit from the Forza sub-brand, it is a light touch rework so no electric screen or significant differences to the outgoing Integra.

poldark wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:21 am Bear in mind this is a simple rebadging exercise for the Integra to look to benefit from the Forza sub-brand, it is a light touch rework so no electric screen or significant differences to the outgoing Integra.

Except for the 15" rear wheel - if that's significant! I presume that all the new engine management tech will make its way onto the next gen X-ADV / N750X in due course.

Capt. R Swipe wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:41 am Honda have updated the website with available colours now and price.

Yes....£10k - isn't that rather more than the Integra was? Choice of blue or black only....no red.

£10k all but £1 for the Forza 750,no electric screen,no heated grips or heated seat,235 kgs,although the Yamaha Tmax 560 techmax (all singing all dancing version) £11,600 electric screen,heated seat & grips,bigger underseat storage,220 kgs and no chain to faff around with........At the moment its still the tmax as my choice when i change machines,i am a fan of Honda’s,but like many,i dont think Honda have really thought the forza 750 through properly,Poldak has kinda hit the “nail on the head”

Steve

MrGrumpy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:26 am

Capt. R Swipe wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:41 am Honda have updated the website with available colours now and price.

Yes....£10k - isn't that rather more than the Integra was? Choice of blue or black only....no red.

Upside down forks, twin front discs with fuel tank at front and smaller rear wheel, it's a Xdv with a lower ground clearance and different bodywork.

Waldorf wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:41 pm What are Suzuki offering as a replacement for the 650?

They aren't, Mike.

Unofficially ( as in "off the record," ) there's no profitable market share to be had.

In other words, "Even if we made a Euro 5 replacement, and had a growing not shrinking share of the market, we wouldn't be able to get it into the UK after 31/12/2020 without losing thousands on every one."

Expect even more models to drop off UK official ranges in 2021.

£10k for the Forza 750 is a bit of a cheek, given that the Integra was £9k, and you don't actually anything very significantly more for your money. A few upgrades yes, but a £1k's worth???

A US site has an interesting feature on its article about the 750
https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-feature ... urope.html

There are 2 images, one comparing the Forza to an x-adv and the other comparing it you an Integra. The clever bit is a slider on each picture which lets you see the visual differences.