BMW C Evolution

[Bluebottle]

They've gone for liquid cooling which does add an item to the long term service compared to most other electrics so far.

[StephenC]

You might want to revise those costs, currently a 250(ish) scooter costs £4500 and only needs a service every 8,000 miles

That depends on the machine. I'm just going by my current bike.

Any word on a new Satelis 250/300 for the UK yet?
Maybe you'll just have to get a Honda next...

There is a mk2 Satelis 300, but it looks as though it won't be imported. No great loss, as it is only really a mk1.5 and not a proper mk2. But 3X have a mystery 400cc on the way, which must be the Satelis with the Metropolis motor. I'm looking forward to seeing that.

But if it takes too long to get here, then I have narrowed my options to a new Forza or second hand Satelis 500 or perhaps BMW 650GT.

[michaelphillips]

i still think this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kymco-Xciting ... 232f1b647a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

would make a good buy for someone wanting a 499cc scooter

review here http://bikereviews.weebly.com/kymco-xciting-500i.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[StephenC]

Price announced. Hope everyone is sitting down...

Via Visordown:
The C Evolution costs £13,500. The electric scooter is suitable for learners and A1 licence holders restricted to 15hp, even though its maximum power is 48hp. Contained in the specs, along with the maximum 48hp, is a separate 'rated' power figure of 15hp and in brackets 'riding licence class A1'. The lower figure is what the bike turned in under specific EU-set test conditions and is sustainable continuously. That means it’s the figure licence authorities look at.
The C Evolution makes 53lbft of torque from 0-4,500rpm, has a range of 62 miles in 'every day riding' and will charge to 80% in two hours and 45 minutes.
Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-new ... z2lqRcLKed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[MrGrumpy]

Cor! You could buy 3 of the new Kawasaki scoots for that price. I know running costs are cheaper, but could you really save £9k in running costs in 5 years or even 10 years, so that it would make financial sense? And what happens when the batteries are knackered?

[tmaxrobbo]

Ordered one . We will see !!!!

[Normsthename]

Looked at the BMW Electric Scoot specs and it looks like no fast charge option
Also they say it charges from a standard 13 amp socket or from a Charging Station.
If it's got a 3 Pin Plug it will be severely limited by the charging stations that it can use, most are now changing over to Type 2
I have the same trouble with my Electric Renault Twizy.
If it had a Fast charge option it would expand the range.
Most new electric cars can be fast charged to 80% in under half an hour

Andy

[bikerdezzie]

or this! - " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[abitmad]

...Price announced. Hope everyone is sitting down...The C Evolution costs £13,500...has a range of 62 miles in 'every day riding' and will charge to 80% in two hours and 45 minutes...

Or in other words it's just about useless for most riders compared with petrol engine scooters which have a range of at least twice that and "charge" to 100%, not just 80%, in a few minutes. Oh and on top of that, mid range petrol engine machines cost around one third of that or even top models like the TMax cost some £5,000 less.

Wot a load of (ridiculously expensive) rubbish. Electric scooters in my view will only be of any widespread use when one of two things occur. Either petrol becomes more or less unavailable or impossibly expensive so we have no choice. Or electric technology improves so that it really competes on charging time and range. Until then it's a non starter.

[kayz1]

there is only one reason these companys are making leccy vehicles, Brownie points from the EEC, They can then carry on making these stupid V8's that do 15MPG and offset against the leccy stuff.