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Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:31 pm
by kayz1
Funkycowie wrote:Not actually tried that MrGrumpy... But in theory if you release the slack on the driven pulley it could be possible. The bit of chassis is what the bucket sits in, but I have in the past just wiggled the belt through... probably not good if there are sharp bits but I could not feel any hence why I did it. Socket wise I have been using a 29mm I think... I need to go in there and refurb the driven pulley side any way at some point which I think was supposed to be done on one of the services but I ran out of time and forgot about it.
The nut that holds the variator on need to be torqued up to 160NM I think... so whilst I do just about manage undoing it with brute force and a torque wrench it can be a bitch.
you need two 65 or 70mm M6 bolts and they go in the rear pulley, screw them in a bit on each one till they bottom this pulls the sheaves apart and the belt is easily removed.
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:33 pm
by MrGrumpy
Funkycowie wrote:Not actually tried that MrGrumpy... But in theory if you release the slack on the driven pulley it could be possible. The bit of chassis is what the bucket sits in, but I have in the past just wiggled the belt through... probably not good if there are sharp bits but I could not feel any hence why I did it. Socket wise I have been using a 29mm I think...
Yes 29mm - I knew it was an odd size. I've seen the sneaking the belt out method work on my mk2, though there was no spare clearance at all! No idea whether its possible on the mk3/4. I suppose I could consult the workshop manual and see what it says, as the releasing the tension method was described in the mk2's workshop manual.
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:50 pm
by Funkycowie
kayz1 wrote:Funkycowie wrote:Not actually tried that MrGrumpy... But in theory if you release the slack on the driven pulley it could be possible. The bit of chassis is what the bucket sits in, but I have in the past just wiggled the belt through... probably not good if there are sharp bits but I could not feel any hence why I did it. Socket wise I have been using a 29mm I think... I need to go in there and refurb the driven pulley side any way at some point which I think was supposed to be done on one of the services but I ran out of time and forgot about it.
The nut that holds the variator on need to be torqued up to 160NM I think... so whilst I do just about manage undoing it with brute force and a torque wrench it can be a bitch.
you need two 65 or 70mm M6 bolts and they go in the rear pulley, screw them in a bit on each one till they bottom this pulls the sheaves apart and the belt is easily removed.
Lyn... it was still a squeeze getting it through
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:23 pm
by Globs
Funkycowie wrote:Easy enough to do most things on the TMax yourself
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Oil filter and air filters can cost less than £60, I managed about £40 delivered for oil, air, both vbelt ones. Then changed them myself.
Brake pads are an easy swap out, seem to go through fronts pretty quick (4000 miles) on mine, rear has lasted over 12000 miles and is only half worn.
V Belt is near enough £100 for the real thing.
Equivalents on the X10 are
Air filter - washable, but you will need filter oil in a spray can (£5)
Spin-on oil filter £6
Belt - genuine (piaggiospares.co.uk) £78
You will pay more for rear gearbox oil though - 500cc of EP80-90 in there IIRC - much more than a dry clutch scooter.
ETA I made a good variator/clutch holder with thick galvanised strips from a builders merchant, bolted together with M6 or M8 bolts from the same place.
I made mind about 16" long IIRC.
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:11 pm
by Funkycowie
This is what I made to lock the variator, just need to switch the big bolts for smaller ones with a sheath for the driven pulley.
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Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:47 pm
by michaelphillips
that looks the dogs doodaa.sss
Funky not sure if the cross reference for your scoot front pads are these but at £6.95 delivered they are a good buy, i buy my rear pads at same price from them and lasted a year, just ordered another set for rear.. not suggesting your fronts last a year
so could save you dosh
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Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:07 pm
by Funkycowie
mine are FA252 I believe... wish they were that cheap.
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:58 pm
by michaelphillips
Funkycowie wrote:mine are FA252 I believe... wish they were that cheap.
yes having a more indepth look they for the tmax mk2
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:39 pm
by Globs
BTW if you are looking at the Tmax also don't forget the faster and cheaper Aprillia Mana 850 GT.
Re: i am in a quandary at the moment
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:50 pm
by Funkycowie
Which is less reliable