BMW C Evolution

[Bluebottle]

The only time I ever did a full charge was when I purposely ran the battery down completely. Even then the charge was virtually at max half way through the posted time. They charge rapidly to begin with and slower as they fill.

Usually a quick top up is all that is needed
(I was doing aprox 3/4 of the posted max range every day)

Electrics work differently and it takes a while to get out of the "petrol" way of thinking

[SH125Paul]

I would love to give one a go for a week... Would do my 40 mile round trip thru stop start traffic - often see a Vectix imn the traffic along the OKR...
As said, its gonna be on Price and if the batteries are Buy or Lease...

Electric Vespa... i can see the ques to buy - and at the charging points already...
What if one of the rear side pods had a handle on it ala suitcase, and you could take it indoors to charge it!
And what if the other side had an option of being a pannier or another battery as a spare, to double your distance... - Bingo!

[Bluebottle]

BMW is obviously the luxury end

SYM are working on an elec scoot that might appeal to the more frugal end of the market and would be a fairer comparison to the Forza mentioned earlier

Xmaxpaul: removeable batteries are a good idea, a few smaller production leccies already have them

[gn2]

SYM are working on an elec scoot that might appeal to the more frugal end of the market and would be a fairer comparison to the Forza mentioned earlier

That sounds quite interesting.
For me it needs to do 100 miles at 65-70mph and be cheaper all-in than a 300cc petrol.

[Funkycowie]

Removable light battery would be very handy

[StephenC]

Removable light battery would be very handy

And more secure when parked.

[Bluebottle]

By the way, I don't think the drive modes have been described.

Road gives max. acceleration and full regeneration when braking but only half regeneration when coasting so your speed degrades less when coasting

Eco reduces available acceleration and maximises regeneration so if you are not on the throttle you will get a type of gentle engine braking

Sail turns regeneration down so that the bike will freewheel further

Dynamic give max. acceleration and max. regeneration for more aggressive riding but also handy in hilly country

[gn2]

max. regeneration for more aggressive riding but also handy in hilly country

If you could bottle gravity you would make a fortune

[Bluebottle]

Bottling enough gravity to power a scooter can be done with a good sized stream on or next to your property, more if its a proper river; unfortunately only a few of us have that option

[gn2]

The North Sea is but a few hundred yards from my property, could I use that instead...?

The idea of removable batteries does have an appeal, you could have a range extending "tour pack" of big supplementary batteries which fit on like panniers and topbox.
Luggage storage would then be a problem though.
Maybe a quick release sidewinder style job could be adapted for either a big battery or luggage...?