Meldrew wrote:Do you know I've been riding nearly 40 years now and I don't anyone who's suffered facial injuries from wearing an open face.

I can introduce you to some if you like
My mate Gibbon's older brother (twisted front wheel landing a wheely and went over the bars) saw it and helped pick him up.
My brothers best mate (car ran a light, landing him chin first on the corner of the kerb) brother saw it. All wired and stiched by the time I first saw it

The really nasty ones were people I didn't know but accidents I helped to deal with-
Unknown rider with gurgling pulp for a face, broken pelvis etc (speeding, clipped a car and went down the road like a frisbee hitting street furniture along the way) Gave me the heebie jeebies for a couple of nights. I got a thank you letter for holding his squishy bits in until the ambulance arrived, written by his father.
Less disturbing but still wierd was a scooter rider who got his jawbone pushed up round the side of his face. Luckily there was already a medic/first aider dealing with him so I just directed traffic

However, I once helped a tourist in Greece hobble back with a hire scooter. His open helmet was really battered and scuffed all over the front but he didn't have a single mark on his face at all

Wear what you want to wear, I'm going to wear the whole lot

Worst thread ever!

Some bloke I knew about from his mothers friends daughters sister reckoned Elvis wore a full face helmet in a chip shop down our road but burned his hands in the fryer because he wasn't wearing proper shin pads.

darrenandsarah wrote:Some bloke I knew about from his mothers friends daughters sister reckoned ..........................................

Quite right, better to stick with scientific data.
35% of impacts are to chin

Icon took a Construct helmet and painted Dietmar Otte's numerical crash data on the outside to illustrate impact zones during motorcycle crashes

Full or open face the message I'm getting here to protect my face is.....DON'T RIDE A BIKE! Now that just isn't going to happen, is it? We all take a chance when riding a bike and it's down to the individual as to the risk he/she takes. How many leather clad, full face, helmet riders can honestly say they don't smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, use recreational drugs, eat fatty unhealthy food, don't excercise or have driven a car without using seat belts until they were compulsory or driven a car without an airbag or ABS or talk on ther mobile while driving? Statisticly you are probably more likely to be injured or killed in a road taffic accident on a bike compared to a car but we still ride them, don't we?

Bluebottle wrote:

darrenandsarah wrote:Some bloke I knew about from his mothers friends daughters sister reckoned ..........................................

Quite right, better to stick with scientific data.
35% of impacts are to chin

Icon took a Construct helmet and painted Dietmar Otte's numerical crash data on the outside to illustrate impact zones during motorcycle crashes

Interesting! Thanks for posting. But only 0.4% of impacts on the top, where the greatest protection is?? very odd. 35% on the chin is quite a high proportion

Mr Grumpy is correct, you are indeed fluent in bollox.

Just a bit of friendly banter.

As a biker and from a protective point of view I can only say if I'm going to crash I hope i'm wearing a car! If I do crash whilst wearing my open face I'm sure I'll deeply regret wearing it that day. But I'd have to counter that with the last 30 years of riding bikes whilst wearing a open face helmet fro a lot of those rides. In short I just cant go through life worrying about worse case scenarios.

I wear one when it is hot (25c or above) as I find a full face swelteringly hot. I am aware of the downsides, but I suppose I am trusting to luck and my experience.

I only wear a helmet because law says i must ,YES IT DOES MAKE SENSE, but how many of us would ride with out ,a lot i suspect