Meldrew wrote:

spaceprobe wrote:The 400 is a big seller in Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. It's the biggest seller in Greece (and their Road conditions leave a lot to be desired) and it's a big seller in Australia. Having lived there for 3 years I can tell you get away from the main towns and it's tough going.

Go on then tell us about the bull dust hiding potholes a foot deep. hitting Tasmanian Devils sleeping on the road, manic sleep deprived road train drivers, looking out for kangaroos and wild camels wandering onto the road at night etc.

I only ever experienced F****** large roos leaping out in front of me, and spiders the size of dinner plates which required a change of pants

How do you change the pants on a spider?

with intrepidation

The kph speedo is a personal thing, I know some people are fine with them, but not me, there's absolutely no way I could tolerate one.
Harsh 3rd world?
Maybe Scotland is worse, there's salt on the road for at least three months a year.
Any Sym I've seen here has had a very rusty exhaust, corroded alloy parts and faded plastics.
The service interval is about cost and convenience, longer interval is always better.

Regarding the kph, I fitted my scooter with a kph to mph converter, Its gold in colour and screws onto the speedo drive at the front wheel, the speedo cable then screws onto it. I checked the accuracy on a GPS and at 40mph its spot on. The markings on the speedo dial are now reading mph not kph. Apart from the first service I have done my own servicing, I then know its been done ok.

Oh come on GN2, they can't rot as fast as your previous tuc-tuc Honda did.
It quickly became a rust bucket with knackered plastics, a cracked engine block, the forks had to be replaced and even Honda would only offer 2p trade in as long as you bought another tuk-tuk

You needed the long service intervals so you can save up for all the repairs needed in between!

The Forza has longer service schedule
The forza has longer service schedule
I'm sure you are very proud but its a cheapo monkey metal tuk-tuk, some of us buy quality over cost.

Is it helpful or pleasant to hear any of this? Can we make a deal to stop slagging people's bikes off and ramming our criteria down everybody else's post?

True that the PCX did suffer one manufacturing fault, I have never hidden from that.
In the three years I had it despite the appalling neglect it suffered there were no breakdowns and it never once failed to start and take me where I wanted to go.
And there was a dealer available and willing to do me a good trade-in when it was time to say goodbye.
Its still going well, I've seen it on the road a few times since I traded it.

All scooter are a very personal choice, the more variety the better.