smeghead wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:52 pm Be rayt, get it overtook. You didn't know the stiff and maybe he/she was a right pillock. Have a bacon sarni and a nice cup of tea, that'll make you feel better
moral/ethical dilemma?
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Yeah, that's a whole different thing. Those guys clear the path for VVIP convoys and so my strong advice is to NEVER get in their way as they are very serious people, and will act with only thing in mind - protection of the principle. Your rights, whatever they are, just don't come into the equation.
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This is only acceptable behaviour if the sarni has HP Sauce in it.
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This sounds like common sense at last! The other snag is that some people will be totally offended if you try to overtake a funeral, and others won't be bothered.smeghead wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:52 pm Be rayt, get it overtook. You didn't know the stiff and maybe he/she was a right pillock. Have a bacon sarni and a nice cup of tea, that'll make you feel better
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I agree. Person could have been an ass hole in life.smeghead wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:52 pm Be rayt, get it overtook. You didn't know the stiff and maybe he/she was a right pillock. Have a bacon sarni and a nice cup of tea, that'll make you feel better
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smeghead wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:52 pm Be rayt, get it overtook. You didn't know the stiff and maybe he/she was a right pillock. Have a bacon sarni and a nice cup of tea, that'll make you feel better
I would have phrased it differently, not better just different, but I think Smeghead sums it up nicely. I can't remember the last time I had a bacon butty. I've told my family to sling me in the nearest skip when I die, skip drivers don't have a reputation for driving slow.
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I've organised, and participated in, some quite large funeral cortèges. As in 60+ vehicles, mainly bikes but also cars, camper vans.knight2 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:15 pm I was riding on the A54 from Buxton to Congleton yesterday, nearer Congleton when I came up behind a slow moving queue of traffic. This road is bendy and up and down hill and overtaking places are few, but I managed to get passed a few of them and found myself one limo behind a hearse and we came to a short straight. So should I overtake or should I show respect and follow till they turned off. Take into consideration that this hearse was doing 12mph in places and the fastest was 25mph on a road with a 50 mph speed limit. I have been in this situation before and did the same thing then as I did yesterday I overtook it.
I would be interested in what others would do.
The intention was not to hold up traffic. It was simply a show of respect.
Anyone not in the cortège, that could overtake safely and respectfully, was welcome to do so.
Most drivers/riders overtaking would show their respect in some way or other.
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It was the slow speed of this one I couldn't understand, I actually thought it was a loaded HGV at first as I had passed one doing a similar speed just before. It wasn't till I got behind it that I realised, by then I assumed I was among the mourners so passing seemed the best option.
Way back in the 1960's I used to work for a local builder who was also the local undertaker as they were in days gone by. One Saturday morning he asked me if I would give him a hand to pick up an old guys body put him in the coffin, we took with us, and take it to the local chapel. The old guy lived in a small two roomed cottage, a bedroom and a living room, it was small and we couldn't get the coffin in the bedroom where he was laid out so we put the coffin across the arms of the settee and went to pick him up from the bed. I was sixteen and never been near a dead body before. The builder told me to take the feet and he would take the shoulders as we lifted him off the bed the old guy let out a loud groan, frightened the crap out of me and I have to admit I dropped him
, much to the builders amussement. It's just the air coming out off the body he says, I'd swear the bastard planned it, the builder that is.
Way back in the 1960's I used to work for a local builder who was also the local undertaker as they were in days gone by. One Saturday morning he asked me if I would give him a hand to pick up an old guys body put him in the coffin, we took with us, and take it to the local chapel. The old guy lived in a small two roomed cottage, a bedroom and a living room, it was small and we couldn't get the coffin in the bedroom where he was laid out so we put the coffin across the arms of the settee and went to pick him up from the bed. I was sixteen and never been near a dead body before. The builder told me to take the feet and he would take the shoulders as we lifted him off the bed the old guy let out a loud groan, frightened the crap out of me and I have to admit I dropped him
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Some old houses have a "corpse hatch" to avoid carrying the body down the stairs, although how dropping the body onto the mantle piece is deemed to be more dignified is beyond me. I suppose it would give the deceased a laugh if they are looking down on the proceedings 
Back to the OP's question I most likely wouldn't overtake. Firstly as a sign of respect and secondly because I'd feel such a twat if I crashed in the process.
Obviously this doesn't apply if the deceased was a rider too because we appreciate and expect this sort of behaviour, especially if a wheelie or rolling burnout can be included in the proceedings
So if I croak and you're passing you know what to do
Back to the OP's question I most likely wouldn't overtake. Firstly as a sign of respect and secondly because I'd feel such a twat if I crashed in the process.
Obviously this doesn't apply if the deceased was a rider too because we appreciate and expect this sort of behaviour, especially if a wheelie or rolling burnout can be included in the proceedings
So if I croak and you're passing you know what to do