Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:20 pm
by gn2
Are Sym/Kymco service intervals really short, or do they just need regular oil changes?
Case in point Yamaha Xmax 250, oil changes very frequent at 1800 miles but valve clearance check interval is 12,000 miles.
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:17 pm
by Drago
gn2 wrote:Are Sym/Kymco service intervals really short, or do they just need regular oil changes?
Case in point Yamaha Xmax 250, oil changes very frequent at 1800 miles but valve clearance check interval is 12,000 miles.
Service intervals are 3000km/1800miles for my 2008 SYM GTS 250. But most are just for oil changes and inspection of some parts. Spark plug/belts/rollers/valves is every 12000km. SYM don't use oil cartridges they use thimble like filters that make oil changes simpler, but more frequent as the oil isn't filtered as well as with a cartridge. An out of warranty SYM can very easily be DIY maintained and only be taken in every 12000km for the 'big' service - thats what i do with mine now.
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:26 am
by frankiej1949
Get her a Piaggio X10 Great for commuting, good protection, lots of grunt and looks awesome. I am sure yoy would not mind riding it either.
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:39 am
by topper
frankiej1949 wrote:Get her a Piaggio X10 Great for commuting, good protection, lots of grunt and looks awesome. I am sure yoy would not mind riding it either.
Interesting suggestion thanks, but it's not here yet. This is what Ofer Avnir (Piaggio / Kymco / Gilera / Suzuki / Vespa importer) offers at the moment...
The best I can come up with is something like an SYM / Kymco 250 or 300, but maybe she'll have another go on the Xevo at the weekend. Thanks to all who've responded so far, this is a great community!
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:44 pm
by poldark
topper wrote:
frankiej1949 wrote:Get her a Piaggio X10 Great for commuting, good protection, lots of grunt and looks awesome. I am sure yoy would not mind riding it either.
Interesting suggestion thanks, but it's not here yet. This is what Ofer Avnir (Piaggio / Kymco / Gilera / Suzuki / Vespa importer) offers at the moment...
The best I can come up with is something like an SYM / Kymco 250 or 300, but maybe she'll have another go on the Xevo at the weekend. Thanks to all who've responded so far, this is a great community!
Wow the Burgman 400 is sure expensive by comparison, no idea of exchange rates for UK equivalent but damn near twice the price of Downtown 300.
Looks like Xevo 250/400 or Kymco Downtown 300/G-Dink250, but it'll come down to what she's comfortable on, wouldn't suggest forcing her onto a bike she isn't at home with.
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:07 pm
by SpikeOne
Don't touch the Downtown!
That mind sound odd from a DT owner, (who loves it to bits), but she'll never get anywhere near flat footing it.
I'm 5'11" with a 30" inside leg and could only just about do it when it was new. Also, it's very heavy for it's size, which is, ironically, what makes it so stable at speed, I guess...
What about the Vespa GTS300!
I had a look at it when I was buying my DT and only discounted it, because it was relatively small, (I'm a big bloke), but I understand it goes like a Saturn 5 rocket!
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:22 pm
by MrGrumpy
The Burgman 400 has, I believe, a relatively low seat (unlike the 650). Obviously the 400 has enough grunt for M-ways. They don't list the 200 on your website, which does have a really low seat, but may not have quite enough grunt for M-way use anyway (does a decent 70mph, but not much more)
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:41 pm
by R1K SU
The sym GTS 300 EVO is a great looking bike, the 400 version is same power as the Burgman 400 but a lot cheaper new, also Sym were doing 0% finance in the UK a while ago. So they may do it where you live to.
Dont look at the xmax yamaha 250, seat height is very high and it cant be cut down.
To see if a seat can be cit down ( lots of bikers do it ) lift the seat and see if there is a dome under it where the helmet would fit and where it is situated near the front of the seat or not. The Yamaha dome is right under the drivers seat, so only about 3cm of padding
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:47 pm
by topper
poldark wrote:
Wow the Burgman 400 is sure expensive by comparison, no idea of exchange rates for UK equivalent but damn near twice the price of Downtown 300.
Looks like Xevo 250/400 or Kymco Downtown 300/G-Dink250, but it'll come down to what she's comfortable on, wouldn't suggest forcing her onto a bike she isn't at home with.
Anything remotely luxurious is expensive here, taxes are through the roof and imports are controlled by an oligopoly (it's a small population, so no room to compete). The Burgman 400 at 44930 shekels list is currently GBP8120. Admittedly the pound is very weak right now (about 5.5 shekels / pound), but even at 7.5, it's GBP5990.
R1K SU wrote:The sym GTS 300 EVO is a great looking bike, the 400 version is same power as the Burgman 400 but a lot cheaper new, also Sym were doing 0% finance in the UK a while ago. So they may do it where you live to.
Dont look at the xmax yamaha 250, seat height is very high and it cant be cut down.
To see if a seat can be cit down ( lots of bikers do it ) lift the seat and see if there is a dome under it where the helmet would fit and where it is situated near the front of the seat or not. The Yamaha dome is right under the drivers seat, so only about 3cm of padding
Is it likely to suffer the same size issue as the Downtown 300 mentioned above by SpikeOne?
Re: Choosing a bigger scooter for the shorter other half
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:08 pm
by anonstarter
topper wrote:Anything remotely luxurious is expensive here, taxes are through the roof and imports are controlled by an oligopoly (it's a small population, so no room to compete). The Burgman 400 at 44930 shekels list is currently GBP8120. Admittedly the pound is very weak right now (about 5.5 shekels / pound), but even at 7.5, it's GBP5990.
We have a training video here in the UK that explains the apparently high 'retail prices' in Israel:
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I'm confident you'll get one for a lot less - maybe even half price - if you're not in a rush...