Burgmans???

[charles1976]

Any ideas of what's going on re burgmans....650 not been in production for a while and 400 no sign of anything happening at all...

[Rocketman122]

I think they stopped with the 650 before covid was a thing and probabaly have been in R&D on something new. but with covid, could be things are put on hold. im guessing its a euro 5 thing.

imo, the burgman 650 speaks to a very specific small group. mostly older chaps and pensioners who want a crusier/touring. the bike looks like an old guys scooter tbh. that ecvt is also a deterrant for many buyers. I would have went with the 650 instead of a 400 had it had a standard cvt I could maintain. if you buy used you have no way of knowing if a $3000+repair bill is inevitable sooner or later.

imo they need to change the body shape and make it a more sporty look design. its bulky and fat looking. size is not a problem if you make it look sleek and sharp. its significantly larger than a tmax/ak550. slim it down only slightly and give it a more aggressive look is priority imho.

pre 2018 b400 model (2007-2017) ran for 10 years without any significant changes beside the clutch so I would not think they will change the current body. I think they skimped on the current bosy. some things theyve added but many things did not get better.

[charles1976]

Doesn't look hopeful for new models

[Rocketman122]

who knows. they are a big company. I dont think theyd throw a veteran model like the 650 out the window. its already more than a year news of discontinued of the 650 is passing through forums.

[charles1976]

Look how honda brought out the updated forza 300 quickly followed by the 350....yamaha with the tmax 560 version now...

Very disappointing from suzuki

[Rocketman122]

whats disappointing is that stva they have (b400) which has known c28 issues. you cant even buy the unit by itself. you have to buy the whole throttle body at $550. thats disappointing.

they are a bit in a sleep regarding the burgmans. the 200 is a decent scooter but I also heard is hard to get. the 400 is a skimped on scooter and the 650 needs a revamp for sure. but making a new engine from scratch is no easy task. they had it coming though. 20 years with that ecvt is overdue.

[charles1976]

Let's hope it's soon or I'll be getting a bmw c400gt

[Rocketman122]

a bike or scooter is no investment. so I would not buy bmw as I think they are massively overpriced to buy and maintain.

the front fascia though... talk about aesthetically challenged. why not go for the bmw 600 if you were considering the b650 ?

and btw, im no fanboy to any company. even those I own/ed. I do not form any sentiments for them.

[Rocketman122]

they went from a super beautiful and sexy 650 to a "what the hell is that?" new body. it looks like they took styling cues for the headlight from a 50cc yamaha bws.

they could have done better. no comparison. look at the b650 and 400..the 400 doesnt look like a cheaped out design of the 650. id even argue the front on the 400 looks better than the 650. not the new 400. I think it lacks sexiness. it looks good, but just not hard edged enough to be considered sporty.
https://postimg.cc/143Y0Wqd

[charles1976]

Bmw c650 service cost huge