burger recollections

[Dave Weller]

Eric, My Deauville is very cheap to run, since getting the Burgman 400 it usually rests in the garage, I much prefer a maxi-scooter riding position, handling and comfort.
Fuel consumption is about the same as the Burgman, I think Honda's tweeted the ECU as they did with the Silverwing. It needs a new rear tyre, so I just go to a local Honda Owners club meeting to wear it down to the limits at the moment. The Deauville is a good long distance tourer, mine is one of the last ones and came with a red colour matched top box and the additional large pannier lids. I like the brakes on this later model, linked to the foot brake, so you can do a fair bit of braking before the front forks compress, emergency braking is then assisted by the ABS. It's a simple bike to work on.

[Data]

eric, at 3800 miles your engine is still quite tight compared to a fully conformed engine. It won't finish conforming until around 7-7500 miles. So you should find mpg's and power continue to improve as the miles go on. Mine did. The Burgman 400cc engine is very lightly stressed. Piston speed is very low compared to a long stroke motor, even at high revs. So they do take quite some time to bed in fully. You could give your airfilter a quick hoover (as recommended in the workshop manual every 4000 miles). You may find it quite dirty even at low miles. I needed to replace mine early at the 7500 mile service (recommended time is 11000 miles).

[eric1789uk]

Cheers data, will check it at my soonest, is it a retrograde step having a paper filter instead of the foam one that could be cleaned? Bet they cost a pretty penny to replace too.
you seem to be the font of all things burgmanish, hope you dont mind me utilising your knowledge as it becomes a need,

[madmax21959]

Good writeup re: different versions but why didn't they think of introducing a lower back support esp on the 650 instead of only being anle to offer it as an aftermarket piece?

[Data]

Cheers data, will check it at my soonest, is it a retrograde step having a paper filter instead of the foam one that could be cleaned? Bet they cost a pretty penny to replace too.
you seem to be the font of all things burgmanish, hope you dont mind me utilising your knowledge as it becomes a need,

Hi eric, re air filter. Well depends on how you want to look at it. Most engines still use paper. A foam filter has advantages of course but many folk don't seem to know how to properly clean them and set them up with the right oil if needed. So not sure. Cost of the genuine paper filter for your 400 is £19.67 plus VAT. That's down from £30 which it used to be. Suzuki has adjusted some of it's pricing in the last 18 months or so to reflect a more realistic outlay. Not sure I'm the font of all knowledge Burgman ways! But feel free to ask me anything anytime. I'll try to help.

[eric1789uk]

Cheers data, worst job I had to do on a burger was replace the fuel tank on my mk 1 250 cc model. It rusted through on the front corner where the crap from front wheel came up to hit it, was before the days of the bottom cover. All the front plastic off, wheel out, radiator an other crap and yes, it is a bloody tight fit to get the tank in and out, new tank cost arm and leg too. Made a cover out of offcut of cushionfloor on that one and next one, 400y model

[eric1789uk]

Just checked my air filter, bike is 3 yr old, had 3 services...... Bet I was the first to open the air box. Filter had a bit of oily residue on the top edge of the corrugations, vaccummed it out and it appears to breathe satisfactorily. Am going to monitie it for about a month then examine again. Anyone used an pattern one like is on sale on ebay or am I better buying an original....

[stordz]

Good to hear that you are enjoying the bike. They are a good and capable machines, I owned three of them back to back a few years ago.....

Ride safe.........

[eric1789uk]

About the m.p.g. of me burger, filled it up and took it straight onto m.way, accelerate up to 90 and it was showing 12.5 lpm and then steadied it to70 for 10 miles or so and it settled at 15.4 which I thought was good in view of what you said re new engine data. Also I would imagine the bigger givi screen and topbox might take just a little of the consumption too. Was a bit of a chilly day so switched on the heated grips, I was a little sceptical about the buy they really work. Coupled with the hand guards I can only think that really thick winter gloves are not required. Happy days...