maxiscoot nz wrote:
I now no why scooter riders can transition from scooters to bikes but not nessasary the other way round.
Well put Mildew
Now I know I've accused you of spouting nonsense before; this takes the biscuit.. Really you think scooter riders often transition from scooters to bikes? You'll probably find it's the other way around, especially in the UK and I think a lot of people have transitioned from a bike to a scooter on here. I'm on a bike at the moment, but I'm sure it's a mid-life crisis and I'll be back on a scooter soon.
And it's Meldrew not Mildew. Mildew is a form of mould
Never had a problem with the handling on my Silverwing. Maybe I ride it like it was designed to be ridden and not like I wish I'd bought a sportsbike.
I've heard all the 'hinged in the middle' comments - just the usual bullshit I think.
People hear these comments then just spout them out whenever the subject crops up.
Take each corner at a speed appropriate to that corner and the handling is fine.
My brother bought a super-low-mileage 2009 Silverwing, just because it was such a DEAL! Lovely-looking scoot, but after ending-up on Tmaxes, we decided to see about addressing some shortcomings, all mentioned in the Silverwing Forum.
1.) Dr. Pulley Sliders...BIG difference in off the line and overtaking. Should have been OEM, at such an inconsequential cost.
2.) Hyperpro Springs...eliminated the uncontrollable bouncing over rough pavement at freeway speeds and terrible brake dive.
3.) GIVI Airflo...good wind protection became exceptional wind protection!
4.) HAGON rear shocks...helped balance the Hyperpros.
5.) EBC HH pads...shortened braking distances.
If he were just commuting to work, or riding two-up with the Mrs. on a leisurely jaunt, the Silverwing would have been PERFECT!
Unfortunately, he (we) drank the Tmax Kool-Aid, and there is no going back...
He just sold it to a local gent who has been riding a Goldwing two-up, and now, at 65, his hips hurt after riding, stabilizing all that weight at stops. Silverwing is PERFECT for him!
Remember, it all comes down to projected use. I just ran some errands, including dropping by the market for a six-pack of beer. Tmax cut through the moderate traffic like butter and carried everything I need under-seat. And on the weekends, it's out and about riding for fun, to decompress. It does those things better than my old Majesty did, which is why I changed scoots.
My "so-called upgrades" to my Tmax just happen to be what someone else did...oh, wait, YAMAHA!
For the 530, YAMAHA did the following:
1.) Changed the engine torque curve/variator to MATCH. (I did that with the Dr. Pulleys)
2.) Upgraded the brakes (I added sintered pads)
3.) Introduced airflow under the windscreen to stop buffeting (I added the GIVI AirFlo)
4.) Changed to better Battlax tyres (I added Diablos)
5.) Upgraded to projector headlamps (I added Silverstar Ultra bulbs)
6.) Designed shorter mirrors (I cut my down 3")
I think if the manufacturer spends the time and money to make essentially the SAME choices as to upgrades/redesign, they really aren't "so-called". More like "consumer-driven"...
2009 Tmax with OODLES of upgrades!
2009 Majesty 400 (sold)
2007 Aprilia Mojito 150 (sold)
I know several lads who race and have raced with the BSSO, on highly tuned scooters, mostly Lambrettas but Gilera Runners, Italjet Dragsters and the odd Vespa.
They ll tell anybody that they can jump on a bike and ride it in a decent fashion, put owners of bikes on the scooters....completely different story
GTscootz wrote:I know several lads who race and have raced with the BSSO, on highly tuned scooters, mostly Lambrettas but Gilera Runners, Italjet Dragsters and the odd Vespa.
They ll tell anybody that they can jump on a bike and ride it in a decent fashion, put owners of bikes on the scooters....completely different story
We crawl before we walk then some of us run and as we get older some of us decide its time to crawl again . As we may want to get some of those skills we thought we knew back again ?